What linux needs

I love linux. The concept, the implementation, the whole ‘geek in a candy store’ feeling you get when choosing which distribution to install next, it’s great. Linux has matured enough that some distros (mainly Ubuntu) are becoming very easy to use and elegant. Unfortunately, it still has some major problems that could keep it from being a viable alternative to Windows for some people. Here’s my list of the final touches linux needs to be perfect.

1. Improved hardware support: In my mind, the most frustrating thing about linux is its poor hardware support. Sure, it’ll boot on almost any machine, heck, it’ll boot on way more machines than Vista, or even XP, will. Displays, drives, processors, memory, keyboards, mice; these are all well supported in Linux. Unfortunately, network cards, (some) graphics cards, webcams, iPods; not so much. The biggest problem is WiFi network cards. Only cards based on some chipsets (Mainly atheros .. I think) work out of the box. Chips such at the Airport chip inside every mac, and about 90% of other chips, require this special thing called Ndiswrapper, which, at least in my experience, sometimes works, and sometimes doesn’t. After hours of trying I was not able to get my Ubuntu-running iMac to see the network. Please guys, get right on that, that’s been a problem since I first ran Linux 4 years ago, and really hasn’t gotten any better. I know you’re dealing with proprietary drivers and all here, but that didn’t stop Wine (which, by the way, works great).

2. Unified API/App file format: Another thing that really annoyed me about linux is that there is no .exe or .app . There’s RPM, but they only work on some distros, and some RPM’s are distro specific (like some only work on SuSe and others only work on Red Hat), which is totally confusing and anoying. Then there’s .deb , which is better, but, again, only works on some distros (Ubuntu for example). As if all that weren’t enough, there are a jillion and seven different window managers (KDE and GNOME being the most popular) and, who’d a thunk it, KDE programs don’t work on GNOME, GNOME programs don’t work on KDE. If linux is to beat windows, there needs to be 1 format that will work on any distro with any window manager.

3. Wine built in, seamless: As I mentioned earlier, Wine (Windows emulator … oh, I mean Wine Is Not an Emulator, Confusing, is it not? The point is, it’ll run certain Windows apps on linux, not all, but a lot) is great. It runs a bunch of apps and it runs them at pretty much the same speed as they’d run if they were native linux apps. The problem is I haven’t yet run into any distro which has it built in There are a few distros with wine built in, but no major ones (yet). The non-techy crowd isn’t gonna look for a way to run Windows apps on Linux, they’re either going to assume that it does run windows apps and be confused when it doesn’t, or assume that it doesn’t and never find out that it can. If Wine is built in, but hidden from the user (so they don’t have to think about it), then new users could totally simulate the experience of using windows, without the, umm, blue screens of proprietary death.

4. Money: Just sayin’, it wouldn’t hurt their cause if they could advertise, and pay people to work on it and all.

Linux is SOO close to being a perfect alternative to windows even for non-geeks. Once these things are fixed up a bit I will tell everybody I know to install it and cure themselves of Windows.

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Matt Hanson says: 9 February 2008 - 11:40 pm

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Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen says: 10 February 2008 - 5:53 am

Hardware support is extremely distribution dependant, but in general i would agree that the fact hardware makers don’t supply enough information for people to write proper drivers is really, really annoying.

About your second point, i have rarely heard a larger bunch of not very well researched opinionating – being on the team with the KDE music manager Amarok, i can tell you that a considerable amount of our user base don’t use KDE as their desktop environment, and it works just fine under GNOME, FluxBox, Enlightenment and just about all other window managers and desktop environments out there. So… Do try and get your facts right, would you?

As for Wine being built in and set up to seamlessly start Windows programs – you must’ve not looked around too much, i know of two that come with it set up by default, one being CentOS (which is an enterprise level distribution), and the other is Ark Linux, which i’m a teamster on. So, again, a little bit of research goes a very long way ;)

And finally money – yes, unfortunately we live in a with where merit is not enough, so money would be a great thing. That is what all those donation buttons all ’round the different websites are all about :)

Stephen says: 10 February 2008 - 8:37 am

Hardware support isn’t really that bad. Things have improved a lot since older distros such as Corel Linux

Ruel Smith says: 10 February 2008 - 9:20 am

You obviously don’t quite get it. First of all, hardware support needs to come from the manufacturer. Linux has gotten a lot of popular hardware to work out of necessity. However, it’s not the job of Linux developers to do the work that should be done by the hardware OEM. HP supports their own printers, ATi and nVidia support their own graphics cards, Intel and nVidia support their own chipsets… What is the problem with other manufacturers? If you want support for your hardware, organize a campaign to get the hardware OEM to start supporting Linux. It’s that simple.

You’re confused on the unified app format. RPM’s and Debs are packages, not application binaries. Linux does have a unified app format – .bin. Just have a peak in /usr/bin/ and you’ll see them all there. This is the equivalent to Windows .exe file. So, let’s assume you’re less confused and want to install apps via something like ’setup.exe’.

Linux is about choice. That means it also forks. That’s life. Die hard Debian fans want nothing to do with RPM, and die hard PCLinuxOS fans don’t care one iota about Debs. Worst yet, the Gentoo camp doesn’t want anything other than ports on their machines. Get over it.

With slick packaging applications like Synaptic, Smart, Adept, YUM, and RPMDrake, the last thing Linux users want is to install via an installer, which is what you seem to suggest. I can install 1000 packages within minutes with a fast connection. Try doing that in Windows. Windows installation schemes are antiquated and you need a new mindset.

Most distros actually do pay people to work on it. Ubuntu, Mandriva, Suse…they all have paid developers working on their distros. As far as advertising money, that’s a big issue. Who’s gonna step up? Who’s gonna advertise during the Super Bowl just to get people to download something for fee? Just think about it…

Satchmo says: 10 February 2008 - 9:27 am

2: “KDE programs don’t work on GNOME, GNOME programs don’t work on KDE”

This is plain, utterly false. I don’t know what in the world made you believe such a thing. I use KDE daily, with a number of Gnome apps. Flawlessly. You can even give them a similar look.

3: “they’re either going to assume that it does run windows apps and be confused when it doesn’t, or assume that it doesn’t and never find out that it can”

Here the point is: they’re not supposed to. When you buy a Mac, you don’t buy it to use Internet Explorer. Windows and Linux are two completely different operating systems. That’s exactly why Linux is great. If you use linux, you use linux apps.

4: Money

And here’s the other main reason why free operating systems are what they are: they’re built to WORK, not to sell and make money.

Johan says: 10 February 2008 - 9:31 am

No, what Linux needs is for people to stop posting on their blogs about “what Linux needs”. I hope sometime in the future people will realize that you shouldn’t buy a frickin ipod if you wanna run Linux. The ipod is such a perfect example of why you shouldn’t buy something that proprietary. Apple “updates” it and it no longer works in Linux.

About the unified package-format.. that will probably never happend. Novell and Linux-foundation are pushing for their “Linux Standard Base”-project, but they are neglecting to listen to such important players such as the Debian project. One point of LSB is to make RPM a standard amongst Linux distros. Well, RPM suck preatty badly so I don’t think so.

Also Wine… it’s a really impressive hack, but I don’t need it, and I don’t think it should get too good, cause then we’ve really lost a reason to develop free and open source, linux native applications.

Ben Feldman says: 10 February 2008 - 6:59 pm

As a Linux developer, user, enthusiast, and KDE contributor, let me answer all four of your concerns with valid reasons:

1.) Hardware support goes way beyond proprietary drivers – if I need to run a proprietary driver to get my wireless card to work, for example, I’m more than willing to, and so are the majority of Linux users.

Many companies, such as Broadcom, don’t even offer (or at the very least put a few developers under NDA and give them the specs to write the driver, like Microsoft has with some protocols) the benefit of decent proprietary drivers. This lack of support for certain hardware is due to developers not knowing anything about the hardware, which forces them to reverse engineer from scratch – which more often than not will, unavoidably, produce unstable and inefficient (read: bad) drivers.

Some companies are getting better at being nice, and some (*cough*Broadcom*cough*) aren’t.

It’s also important to note that Linux has better out-of-the-box hardware support than Windows, and the only reason that Macs “just work” is because Apple controls the hardware that (legally) works with OS X, giving them much more time and effort to put into the peripherals (a good deal of which, such as digital cameras, iPods/other MP3 players, work just fine on Linux).

2.) Welcome to open source. Different projects produce different results. There are some attempts to create a unified installer, except, unless they’re really unified (i.e., found on Ubuntu, Fedora, Mandriva, openSuSE, Red Hat Enterprise Linux, etc.), they’re not unified, are they? :P

I generally stick to DEB distributions because there’s a simple little tool called Alien that converts any RPMs I may need to install to DEBs almost perfectly.

Tricky situation to combat unless one company/group controls Linux, and that’s not happening ;)

As for your complaints with KDE (Qt) apps not working on GNOME and GNOME apps (GTK/GTK+,GTKmm) not working on KDE… I don’t know where you got that idea from. Unless you’ve compiled GNU + Linux + KDE or whatever yourself and specifically haven’t installed the other window manager’s framework, when you install a GNOME app on KDE or KDE app on GNOME, they will work fine. For example, many GNOME distributions (including Ubuntu) come with KDE applications pre-installed and many KDE distributions (including Kubuntu) come with GNOME applications pre-installed.

3.) Why install it if it’s not necessary? I only use Wine because I like playing around with Safari under Wine (the menu bar’s a bit ugly, but otherwise works great). Many smaller distributions do install Wine by default, though.

Regardless, it is a very good point and I do hope that future versions of Ubuntu come with Wine. Perhaps the reason the “major” distributions don’t come with Wine pre-installed is because they’re supposed to be ready out of the box for enterprise-ready/mission-critical situations, and Wine isn’t perfect. If you can’t get an app to work properly under Wine, you complain to Canonical for shipping something broken.

4.) If Linux distros are free, where do you get the money from? Donations? Donations are generally given to help keep mirrors online, stem development costs, etc.

Now, do Canonical, Novell and Red Hat have the money to do at least some marketing? Yes. Will they in the future? I would think that’s their intention. Perhaps, in Canonical’s case, they can advertise with Dell and some of their other OEMs (HP, Lenovo, etc. should be signing on with them soon), in case they want to split the cost.

Google, HP, Dell, Novell, Red Hat, Canonical, Yahoo!, Sun and others do, indeed, employ tons people (specifically some of the more well-known contributors) whose only job is to work on Linux, be it the kernel, GNOME, KDE, wireless card driveres, etc. Nice gesture.

–Ben

admin says: 10 February 2008 - 7:36 pm

Ok, ok, so I got some things wrong, but that’s just because I’m not big into linux geekery and all. I really thing the next step for linux is appealing to non-geeks and if even a geek like me can’t understand it, then you’ve got a bit to do before grandma can get it.

And yeah, I think I got the idea of GNOME apps not running on KDE because KDE for mac doesn’t appear to run gnome apps, so yeah, my bad. Are all window managers inter-operable, or just KDE and GNOME?

Ben Feldman says: 10 February 2008 - 7:49 pm

Keaton, if you’re going to write about something you don’t know about, you should at the very least brush up on it through Wikipedia. Bashing something for the completely wrong reasons isn’t the right thing to do :P

And of course GNOME apps aren’t going to work on *KDE* for Mac. KDE is built on Qt, which is cross platform by design.

You can run GNOME apps on OS X, but it’s a somewhat long and arduous process.

Also, all of us will say it again – 1 is beyond our control.

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